well first of all thes jumbo pilots are pretty cool i wouldnt mind buying one.as i was saying there pretty cool but once it starts fading you think ehh its done ill buy a new one but if you get a hammer and smash it at then end about halfways down itll work brand new again so if you guys want anymore tips on any other markers hit me up
the orange one is waterbased. on the arromark website they sell markers that are exactly the same as these and it said they were water based. dont think the silver one is waterbased though cuz they didnt have silver on the site AP reply>>they aren\'t exactly the same homie.
These markers write nice and smooth but I wouldnt recomend these for writting on Freight trains, There to soft and are done in an hour or so of writting. These markers are good on just about anything else but freight.
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